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Blade_Repper
2012-09-24, 07:52
Clearly hacking in Server 7


Hellterskkkelter
http://www.team-des-fra.fr/CoM/bf3.php?p=Hellterskkkelter
Cheat o meter give him a 99%


pureRefleXx
http://www.team-des-fra.fr/CoM/bf3.php?PHPSESSID=e7e3f21f5e642c9848bf1541498c7d5b&p=pureRefleXx
42+ %

FluggerNO
2012-09-24, 08:40
Hey there テつ*:D
Thanks for posting this info.
They are banned from all OG servers now.
Again thanks テつ*:D

Gisse
2012-09-24, 08:54
Thanks mate テつ*8)

Hellterskkkelter in 7 hours got to level 45????



pureRefleXx

Name Top Time Kills HS HK % KPM Shots Hits Accuracy Stars Unlocks
M16A3 1% 77:43:13 13 700 5 486 40.04% 2.94 275 181 71 918 26.13% 137 100%

Vizi0n
2012-09-25, 10:22
This is Vizi0n, AKA pureRefleXx.

First of all, I do not hack. I am a professional player, and have been since release. I've played for almost every pro team in the game (Legacy eSports, RivaL Gaming, Team Fragment, Adrenaline Rush, Massive Unit, Crimson, etc.) I also played on the winning team of your Play4Free launch tournament (.GODz.). I've played in every league and every ladder and every tournament in this game. Newegg, Alienware Arena, TWL, CGL, PCGN, PSG, ESL, everything.

I stream almost every round I play @ www.twitch.tv/invizi0n
I'm a very known competitive player and I actually have the round this kid was complaining about recorded on my stream. Go to the video's section of my stream and you can find it. I have empirical proof that I do not cheat in the slightest. Stats are meaningless and experienced admins know that.

Secondly, I would expect such a high profile clan to take a little more time investigating suspect players than just the word of some scrub public player. This kid was crying about me for like 5 rounds. Looking at his metabans record, (http://metabans.com/Blade_Repper) he is 'watching' a ton of known competitive players for hacks. Bottom line, this kid doesn't like getting killed so he cries hack at everything. Although the helterskkelter dude was actually cheating.

Seriously, stop banning people on the whim of know nothing pub scrubs.

FluggerNO
2012-09-25, 11:28
This is Vizi0n, AKA pureRefleXx.

First of all, I do not hack. I am a professional player, and have been since release. I've played for almost every pro team in the game (Legacy eSports, RivaL Gaming, Team Fragment, Adrenaline Rush, Massive Unit, Crimson, etc.) I also played on the winning team of your Play4Free launch tournament (.GODz.). I've played in every league and every ladder and every tournament in this game. Newegg, Alienware Arena, TWL, CGL, PCGN, PSG, ESL, everything.

I stream almost every round I play @ www.twitch.tv/invizi0n
I'm a very known competitive player and I actually have the round this kid was complaining about recorded on my stream. Go to the video's section of my stream and you can find it. I have empirical proof that I do not cheat in the slightest. Stats are meaningless and experienced admins know that.

Secondly, I would expect such a high profile clan to take a little more time investigating suspect players than just the word of some scrub public player. This kid was crying about me for like 5 rounds. Looking at his metabans record, (http://metabans.com/Blade_Repper) he is 'watching' a ton of known competitive players for hacks. Bottom line, this kid doesn't like getting killed so he cries hack at everything. Although the helterskkelter dude was actually cheating.

Seriously, stop banning people on the whim of know nothing pub scrubs.

Well I did ban u of your stats. There is a lot of red flags on your stats.
And amazing how you got 9% down on your cheatometer in just one day (42% to 33%) .
If u just look at your stats u will also see that they dont look clean.
So of that point I did ban u.

Gisse
2012-09-25, 12:06
Watched your movie, that which is hour long. Look legit.

But your stats ....

Weapon テつ* テつ* time テつ* テつ* テつ* テつ* テつ* kills テつ* テつ* HS
M16A4 77h 43m 13700 テつ* 40%
AK-74M 21h 22m 3521 テつ*41%
AN-94 テつ* テつ* テつ* テつ*6h 15m 1059 テつ*41%
AUG A3 5h 34m 1025 テつ*43%
SCAR-L 3h 57m 702 46%

And that is not normal.

We would be glad to help you but this is ... Try to be in our position.

Also, every accusation is checked. We don't just ban people because somebody told us so. We check and then ban. If you have good enough explanation for those stats you are good to go.

Vizi0n
2012-09-25, 21:44
Like I said, if you watch the videos on my stream, it all checks out. There's recorded video of me going back to back 60-0 then 88-2 then 73-2 with every bit of it recorded hitting 50%+ headshots.

Yes, I understand your position, but try to understand mine. I am not your average player. I've put quite a bit of time into becoming the best player I can be. How am I supposed to explain stats? I mean this in the least cocky way possible - I'm just that good. Like I said, I've played this and every other Battlefield game at the highest level of competition. I've had to play in the Alienware Arena under the CEVO anticheat client which actively scans your processes for hacks. I've played under the UAC3 client - same story. I can get other clans to vouch for me if you'd like. .GODz. still loves me, I'm good friends with BBF, MG and PCGN, all of which are huge clans and I frequent their servers.

And I have no idea what you're talking about my 'cheatometer' hasn't moved, it's based completely on stats that are never gonna move in any great numbers. I'm assuming the 42%+ that the guy wrote was talking about my headshot %, not the cheatometer %.

FluggerNO
2012-09-25, 22:41
Like Gisse says here we do always chek before we do ban.
And I always look into this over and over again.
I use lots of hours to look at other players stats before I do ban.
I look into old history data that I can get my hands on.
I dont just ban players out of the blue.

The fact is that on the cheatometer mon the 24 of sep it did say 42%.
Also there was lots of red flags on u.
I cant help that.
This is how I do my work.
The numbers speaks at that point.

But I will take this up with the rest of the staff and I`ll get back to ya.

Shadowfox
2012-09-25, 23:29
I've been trying to check out your story.
But I can't find anything on ESL profile (if any) or any other of those leagues. Google has almost no relative results either (or I'm doing it wrong, but I doubt it). So do you have proof you can provide us other then that twitch.tv account to back your story up?

You're stats say you're probably a cheater, I'm not so hot for stats either, so that's why I'm checking out your story. If it's not on the internetz it doesn't exist.

Flipper
2012-09-26, 02:39
I'd like to vouch for vizion. テつ*I am Flipper103 and I am an admin on the BBF servers.

I have played competitive matches with and against vizion, and can vouch that he is legit. テつ*His stats are very good, but that's just because he is that good. テつ*Sites like cheat-o-meter are good, but do not mean everything as it only accounts for average players. テつ*For instance, cheat-o-meter thinks that his SPM is too high, but many people can achieve that.

vizion is well known in the competitive community and everybody agrees that he is legit. テつ*His videos also further prove his point.

Vizi0n
2012-09-26, 02:40
Most of that is tournaments, so if you want to dig up the brackets from Plantronics and Newegg, be my guest. I played on Team Fragment during both of those tournaments.

Like I said, pureRefleXx is a new alias.

Here are my profiles from a few sites.

http://alienwarearena.com/member/1477162/ (Played on Team Fragment during Winter Season and got 4th, and The Select Few during Spring season)

http://teamfragment.com/?site=squads&action=show&squadID=1 (The roster from Team Fragment)

I also made Rival's tryout and was offered the replacement spot for Panda (RivaL's MVP in BC2) but turned it down because at the time I didn't enjoy the game.

I played for Crimson in BC2 under the team name Koala Bear Kare and we won practically every ladder. I've been offered spots and tryouts with every team out there, No Mercy, Nexus, etc.

Around the same time as I was trying out for RivaL, I had already basically secured a spot on Legacy's team, but they disbanded. Fragment was made up of the top players in the game, including me. We got 2nd in Gamecom Plantronics due to having to the play the final match without two of our best players because the other team rushed the match date.

Here's my TWL profile. http://www.teamwarfare.com/viewplayer.asp?player=inVizi0n

and my PSG profile http://www.painstreetnation.com/index.php?site=profile&id=21

on cgl you can't view your individual profile, but this is a team with me listed on it. (we only played the first match, so the last three were forfeits because we lost a player) http://www.thecgl.com/?league=bf4v4sr&a=team&id=179

xfire profile http://www.xfire.com/profile/baxstaber/

steam profile http://steamcommunity.com/id/frzn_shadow/

Unfortunately I don't remember my ESL information, I only used it at the very beginning and not for long.

My stats do not even say I'm a cheater, they say I'm skilled. Stats are absolutely, 100% meaningless because they give no CONTEXT.


Other than this in other battlefield games, I can give some other information.

In Battlefield 2142, I was Supreme Commander (http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa328/ThePr0digy/bf2142-20100830-063344.png) once and Lieutenant General 17 times under the name xTc.iSolaTe and pr0)digy^. I've maintained a 4+ K/d in every single game since BF2.

I don't see how my stream isn't proof that I don't cheat. I have actual recorded video of the game in question showing I was not cheating, and in that game I more than managed to match the stats provided. That game I hit for close to 4% headshots with my m416 and you watched me do it.

On another note, I can't believe you guys use metabans. Metabans is literally the worst thing that has ever happened to a skilled player. Metabans is like PBBans but without the proof. What the heck is that? It requires no proof at all, none whatsoever. I'd venture to say that half of the people ever banned on metabans have done absolutely nothing wrong, other than simply being too good for some total random scrub like 'Blade_repper.' I hope you understand the implications of putting a player on that list, especially considering so many people are following your ban list. You banning a player on metabans effectively makes it impossible for that player to consistently play the game, and the only proof you have is 'my stats are a little fishy.'

The problem is, you're comparing my stats to a normal player. I am not a normal player. Believe it or not, players of my caliber are around, and this kind of stuff only discourages players from trying to get better. People have absolutely no idea the kind of skill that exists out there, none. A new wave of 14 year old kids play this game that didn't grow up following CS 1.6 pros and quakelive tournaments. Because of this, people think the best player in the world are youtube heroes like RivaLxFactor and Levelcap, when really, they aren't even average by competitive standards. Sorry for the wall of text, but this is the first and foremost problem in this game - people aren't skilled enough to know what the skill cap really is.

Blade_Repper
2012-09-28, 22:00
1. I am not the kid here.
2. You are not helping your situation at all with your attitude.
3. Just because I am watching players don't mean I will ever add you to the list of banned players. What you don't see is that I do remove players from being watched and banned list. This watched list allows me to track you and all your name changes and see if I suspected you before of possibly cheating.

4. Show me a video NOT using FRAPS or any other in game recorder. (I must see your desktop and game). http://camstudio.org/
5. If you clearly show you are that good in game I will gladly remove your ban as a respectable player. But disrespect is also punishable by ban.
6. If you are cheating don't worry you have 84 years left on you ban.

Vizi0n
2012-09-28, 22:21
1. I am not the kid here.
2. You are not helping your situation at all with your attitude.
3. Just because I am watching players don't mean I will ever add you to the list of banned players. What you don't see is that I do remove players from being watched and banned list. This watched list allows me to track you and all your name changes and see if I suspected you before of possibly cheating.

4. Show me a video NOT using FRAPS or any other in game recorder. (I must see your desktop and game). http://camstudio.org/
5. If you clearly show you are that good in game I will gladly remove your ban as a respectable player. But disrespect is also punishable by ban.
6. If you are cheating don't worry you have 84 years left on you ban.

I don't care about YOUR ban, scrub. You're nobody. A horrible player who's butthurt over getting rolled by skill. A pub random who doesn't want to get good, so he tries to eliminate the opposition with bans. Just another mad player with no talent and too much time. The main problem is that you base your accusations on your own level of skill, which is subterranean. Get over the ego trip, you aren't even an admin here, why on god's green earth would anyone give half a damn about whether or not YOU ban me? What exactly are you going to ban me from? Please, enlighten me. ツ*You watched me play, and you watched my stream. Empirical proof that I am indeed, not cheating. You're watching so many players who aren't even good, it goes to show what your bar for 'skill' is. I've been playing with these people competitively for almost a year now and never even came close to wondering if they were cheating; but I see you, oh lord of the pub scene have god tier knowledge of who is legit and who isn't. Hilarious.

Let's take a look at some of the other players you suspect of cheating according to your watch list, just to highlight how precious little you actually know. And yes, I do know a lot about hacks, players like yourself have forced me to know what they do and how they work, not that I've used them. Google is your friend, learn something before you go getting people banned. テつ*


This guy is clearly hacking right? (http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/soldier/greekboy313/stats/187717673/)
wow, 400 spm, major hacks (http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/soldier/DawnStriker101/stats/351862823/)
are you serious? (http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/soldier/Acropolis_22/stats/353382902/)
this guy barely has an even k/d (http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/soldier/ThorisaViking/stats/375197088/)
not even 20% headshots (http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/soldier/isnowcrash/weapons/385685080/pc/)
k/d means everything, right? (http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/soldier/Cletus11/stats/352373373/)

These are the type of players you suspect of cheating? Really? Uninstall the game.
The funny part is, I have already sorted this out with the OG admins - and to them, sorry for the rant, but people like this are absolutely appalling.

FluggerNO
2012-09-28, 22:44
Did unban u today Vizi0n テつ*:wink:
On all OG servers.

Blade_Repper
2012-09-28, 23:16
"I don't care about YOUR ban" LOL then why reply. Psyche 101. You have been schooled.
"but people like this are absolutely appalling." Your welcome, my job is not please you.
You believe everything you read on the internet. Lame
I am bored now thanks for playing.

You could have been unbanned fully today, instead you took the low road.

Vizi0n
2012-09-28, 23:50
"I don't care about YOUR ban" LOL then why reply. Psyche 101. You have been schooled.
"but people like this are absolutely appalling." Your welcome, my job is not please you.
You believe everything you read on the internet. Lame
I am bored now thanks for playing.

You could have been unbanned fully today, instead you took the low road.

Are you daft? Your ban doesn't mean anything. You don't own a server, I don't care about your ban because you aren't actually banning me from anything. I came here to get unbanned from Old Guys Gaming Metro #7 Server, which I was. Your only part of this is that you just happened to be the moron that reported me. I'm not appealing your ban. I don't care about it. Ban me, have all your friends ban me, I don't care in the slightest. You. Are. Nobody.

Blade_Repper
2012-09-29, 00:20
Are you daft? Your ban doesn't mean anything. You don't own a server, I don't care about your ban because you aren't actually banning me from anything. I came here to get unbanned from Old Guys Gaming Metro #7 Server, which I was. Your only part of this is that you just happened to be the moron that reported me. I'm not appealing your ban. I don't care about it. Ban me, have all your friends ban me, I don't care in the slightest. You. Are. Nobody.

ZZZZZZZZZZZ
Let me know when you see a Ban again then tell me I don't own a server or people don't follow my bans for their server.

Thread Closed.

Vizi0n
2012-09-29, 00:36
I find it hilarious you think you can close threads on forums that aren't yours. Fail. 16 people follow your bans and none of them are servers I play on, since I play on a grand total of like 4 different servers. Odds are the same scrubs that follow you have already banned me anyways.

You can't even quote properly with bbcode.